{"id":48157,"date":"2022-04-06T16:19:48","date_gmt":"2022-04-06T20:19:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/keh.com\/expert-advice\/?p=48157"},"modified":"2023-08-16T06:03:15","modified_gmt":"2023-08-16T06:03:15","slug":"baseball-truth-and-life-after-lockdown-with-kevin-d-liles123","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/expert-advice\/photography\/interviews\/baseball-truth-and-life-after-lockdown-with-kevin-d-liles123\/","title":{"rendered":"Truth, Baseball, and Life After Lockdown With Kevin D. Liles"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>We first spoke to Atlanta Braves photographer Kevin D. Liles <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"back in 2019 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/blog\/a-qa-with-kevin-d-liles-atlanta-braves-team-photographer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>back in 2019<\/strong><\/a> to hear about his career path, his inspirations, and what a typical day at a pro sporting event is like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unless you&#8217;ve been living under a rock, you&#8217;ll know that the last few years since 2019 have been anything but typical. In the midst of a tumultuous political and societal landscape, the world was brought to a sudden halt with the onset of a global pandemic. Early in the changing situation, many pro shooters found themselves without subjects to photograph and wondered what the future held for them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For many, it seems that the worst of it may be behind us as we look forward to a return to relative normalcy. Sporting events picked back up and our pal Kevin was able to shoot his dream assignment, the World Series.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We caught up with him recently to see how it felt for that dream to come true, learn how he&#8217;s dealt with the creative struggles of the past couple of years, and to learn more about the storytelling parallels between sports photography and photojournalism. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>All photos by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kevindliles.com\/index\/G00007td3.duSfbs\/thumbs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Kevin D. Liles (opens in a new tab)\">Kevin D. Liles<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">It&#8217;s good to catch up with you, Kevin! Let me start off by asking you this \u2013 Can you, in fact, dig it? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Haha! Yes, I can dig it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"680\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-11.37.01-AM-1024x680.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48161\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">This marks the 10th year since you started as a full-time freelance photographer. As you\u2019ve been able to achieve some of your dream assignments over the years, how has your outlook or approach changed since you\u2019ve started? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, this is my 10<sup>th<\/sup> year as a full-time independent photographer. I am so grateful to have made it this far. I remember when I started freelancing, I told myself that if it all goes south, I\u2019ll just get a job. And thankfully, I\u2019m still on my own. Since then, a lot has changed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For starters, I\u2019m a lot more selective about the work I take. Back in 2012, I was taking nearly every job that came in the door. I was afraid to say no to anything for fear that I would miss an opportunity. Now that things have leveled out a good bit, and with the Braves gig, my goal is to take work only if it furthers my goals or fits my vision. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-11.49.48-AM-1024x683.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48167\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A lot of people have reported feeling burned out during the last few years; personally, professionally, and creatively. Have you struggled with this feeling in your own career and do you have any advice for others on how to get through that struggle? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I shoot nearly every Braves home game, and with 81 of them each season, I definitely know what burnout feels like. There are a couple of ways I deal with this. First, and the cheapest way, is by shooting things just for myself. Usually, that means taking a few minutes during or before a game (or other assignment) to look for some images that I want to shoot. This is something I\u2019ve been doing since I started working as a photographer for small-town newspapers. Many of my assignments back then could be very boring or uninspiring, like a city council meeting or pet of the week. I found that if I could try to make an interesting frame no matter what the assignment was, I always got a boost of creativity. This still works for me today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The\nother, more expensive option, is to use new gear. This has been especially true\nfor Braves games for me. When looking through the same cameras at the same\nfocal lengths day in and day out, it can really take a toll creatively. So to\ncombat this, I\u2019ll rent a piece of equipment \u2014 a different lens or camera \u2014 or\nshoot with an old film camera. It\u2019s all about mixing it up and forcing myself\nto see things differently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-2.54.35-PM-1024x682.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48164\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Speaking of seeing things differently &#8211; the last time we spoke was in 2019. Obviously, things changed drastically for everyone with the onset of the Coronavirus pandemic. The shutdown seemed to give us extra time to slow down, but it&#8217;s also felt as though we&#8217;ve been living through one historical event after another. How has the changing pace of the world affected you over the last few years?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It hasn\u2019t really affected my workflow as much, but definitely has in my projects. There were several photography projects I was working on when the pandemic hit that I have yet to return to. In the middle of all of that, my wife and I had our first child (Violet, who is 15 months old now!) and we moved outside the city. So there have been a lot of life changes also contributing to the amount of time I have available for personal projects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do think a lot more about the historical value of the photos I take, both at Braves games (especially the 2020 season when there were no fans present) and with news assignments. One thing that I think a lot about in regards to this is ownership of images. With regards to the news in particular, images made during these historic times could have lots of value down the road in terms of licensing. So I want to make sure I own as much of the work I produce as possible. Additionally, to further that point, I want to make sure I have as much of my work publicly searchable as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-10.50.21-AM-1024x681.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48163\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Many people lately say that the truth is more important than ever, due to the rise and global accessibility of misinformation thru social media, state-controlled media, and partisan networks. Do you think that this also rings true for photography? Is the truth more important now than ever before? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Truth\nshould always be the goal in obtaining information, no matter what area.\nObviously, the news is the arena where this probably matters most these days.\nIn regards to photography, I think photographers knowing their rights\n(copyright, taking photos on public property, etc.) is the most important area\nwhere misinformation exists. I just encourage all photographers to know their\nrights and stand up for them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"685\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-2.55.07-PM-1024x685.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48162\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Does photography always show the truth? Do you feel that photography can be an effective tool in bringing about societal change? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>No. Photography doesn\u2019t always show the truth. Any combination of things from lens choice, composition, or exposure can change the meaning of a photograph and reveal or conceal the truth. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During the summer of 2020, while covering a large protest at the Georgia Capitol, I photographed a member of the Atlanta Police Department in full combat gear and holding an assault rifle positioned behind a concrete sign for the City of Atlanta. By looking at the photo you would think there was immediate danger all around, considering the defensive stance of the officer. But about 20 feet to the left of him were a couple of protesters just standing around. I remember that the photo didn\u2019t really tell the truth of the scene because it wasn\u2019t really that tense in the moment, but you could have easily felt it was by looking at the photo alone. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I agree 100% that photography can bring about societal change. One only needs to look at the iconic photo from the Vietnam War taken by AP photographer Eddie Adams. The photo, which won the Pulitzer Prize that year, shows the execution of a prisoner on the street. It ran in publications across the world and helped turn the tide of public opinion against the war. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This photo also brings up the notion of truth. Most who see this image see a cold-blooded killer. However, Adams has defended the man who pulled the trigger, Brigadier General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, as a good man who was simply doing his job. The man who was executed, Nguyen Van Lem, had allegedly killed Lt. Col. Nguyen Tuan as well as Tuan&#8217;s wife, six children and his 80-year-old mother. This photo haunted Adams through the rest of his career.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I\nwas getting money for showing one man killing another,&#8221; Adams said. &#8220;Two\nlives were destroyed, and I was getting paid for it. I was a hero.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Quoted from <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"this BBC article (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-us-canada-42864421\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>this BBC article<\/strong><\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-2.54.49-PM-1024x683.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48169\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Last time we spoke, you mentioned that you were hoping to get the chance to shoot a World Series. Although the Braves didn\u2019t quite make it happen in 2019, we did see them succeed in 2021. With the Braves as our local team, there was a lot of buzz around the office! As someone who has been part of the team for quite a while now, tell me about that moment. How much personal excitement and investment is wrapped up in that kind of assignment? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It was incredible. I\u2019m sure you know, but I missed Game 6 of the World Series because of a positive COVID test. I watched us win the World Series from my hotel room a couple blocks away. That was a tough moment, knowing I wouldn\u2019t be part of the celebration or be able to fly home with the trophy. But everything that led up to that moment was just amazing. Stressful and amazing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What\u2019s wild is how insanely tired you are by the time you make it to the World Series. You\u2019ve been on the road for the better part of a month, so you\u2019re either shooting a game or you&#8217;re on a flight to the next game. And each game is like a Super Bowl, so it really adds up by the time you\u2019re in the World Series. But that\u2019s why we do this \u2013 for the big games like this one, so you just soak up every minute of it and take it all in. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-10.51.15-AM-1024x683.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48165\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Do you think there&#8217;s a parallel between the personal connection you feel in your work for the Braves and that of other assignments you take on outside of the sports world? Your imagery and some of your assignments are so moving that it\u2019s hard to imagine not feeling some level of personal investment in telling the story &#8220;the right way&#8221;. <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, no matter what I\u2019m shooting, I have this vision that I want to tell the story. My goal is to get to the soul of it, whether it\u2019s a baseball game, a church service, a portrait, or an Alabama game at Bryant-Denny Stadium. It\u2019s hard to put into words what I\u2019m trying to say with my images, but it\u2019s just something I feel. My images are like my music. And just like a musician uses certain tones and sounds to make the listener feel the way he wants them to, I use light, expression and composition to try to elicit certain feelings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/keh.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/q=80,fit=scale-down,format=auto\/expert-advice\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/Screen-Shot-2022-03-10-at-11.38.08-AM-1024x682.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48170\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">You know we have to ask &#8211; do you have your eyes on any equipment lately? What\u2019s the next purchase going to be? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Definitely the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/shop\/sony-fe-50mm-f-1-2-gm-e-mount-autofocus-lens-black-sel50f12gm-72.html\">Sony 50mm f\/1.2<\/a><\/strong>. I rented one last year and I had forgotten how much I loved shooting with that focal length. Let me know if y\u2019all get one!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>See more of Kevin&#8217;s excellent work at<\/em> <strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"kevindliles.com (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.kevindliles.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">kevindliles.com<\/a><\/strong><br><em>Or follow him at<\/em> <strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"@kevindliles (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/kevindliles\/\" target=\"_blank\">@kevindliles<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/shop\/lenses.html\">SHOP LENSES<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/shop\/cameras\/digital-cameras.html\">SHOP DIGITAL BODIES<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/shop\/cameras\/film-cameras.html\">SHOP FILM BODIES<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/sell\/\">SELL YOUR GEAR<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/trade\/\">TRADE YOUR GEAR<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Three years after our initial interview with Atlanta Braves shooter, Kevin, we catch up &#038; chat about a post-pandemic world for photographers.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":59,"featured_media":48176,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_oasis_is_in_workflow":0,"_oasis_original":0,"_oasis_task_priority":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1147],"tags":[565,807,765,331,567,334],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO Pro 4.5.2.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Three years after our initial interview with Atlanta Braves shooter, Kevin, we catch up &amp; chat about a post-pandemic world for photographers.\" \/>\n\t\t<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"max-image-preview:large\" \/>\n\t\t<meta name=\"keywords\" content=\"atlanta braves,business,covid-19,featured,kevin d liles,sports photography,interviews\" \/>\n\t\t<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.keh.com\/expert-advice\/photography\/interviews\/baseball-truth-and-life-after-lockdown-with-kevin-d-liles123\/\" \/>\n\t\t<meta name=\"generator\" content=\"All in One SEO Pro (AIOSEO) 4.5.2.1\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Expert Advice -\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n\t\t<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Truth, Baseball, and Life After Lockdown With Kevin D. 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